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. >> that was -- they were, of course, clips referring to susan rice. to my ears that second clip sounds like what is known in military circles as a retreat. is that right? >> well, i think -- yes, it's right, martin, and senator mccain's retreat if that's what you want to call it, pretty good word, by the way, for this actually started a week ago sunday. this is the second sunday in a row where he is laying the groundwork for letting susan rice vhave her say if she's nominated. this seems prudent because carrying on a campaign against her when you don't know for sure if obama wants to nominate her can only go so far until something else happens. what senator mccain said two weeks ago is i think he wants an apology from her. that's the word he used. i don't know if he would get that because the administration says there's nothing to apologize for when it comes to ambassador rice. but, yes, change of tone, maybe a change of what his position will be when and if she's nominated. >> john, if i can finish with you, john, do you think that in light of what h
. >> that was -- they were, of course, clips referring to susan rice. to my ears that second clip sounds like what is known in military circles as a retreat. is that right? >> well, i think -- yes, it's right, martin, and senator mccain's retreat if that's what you want to call it, pretty good word, by the way, for this actually started a week ago sunday. this is the second sunday in a row where he is laying the groundwork for letting susan rice vhave her say if she's nominated....
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i rather think he'll appoint susan rice. i'm not a fab of -- fan of hers but i think she'll be confirmed. john kerry might be a worse secretary of state so maybe one goes ahead and lets him have the secretary of state of wants. other maybe one votes against it as senators say she wasn't forth coming in september and she should have known better than to say what she said but since democrats control the senate i assume she'll get concerned. >> chris: what's wrong with john kerry as secretary of state? >> susan rice is nor interventionist. >> john kerry has been against intervening in every war. iraq, he was for it before he was against it. i think susan rice might go with juan and say the light footprint thing isn't working out. >> if one things we're in an incredibly dangerous moment thanks to the light footprint. maybe susan rice would be more alarmed than john kerr. >> chris: kirsten, do you think the president will name her? >> i don't know but if he does, it -- that kind of arrogance, could be his under doing because if s
i rather think he'll appoint susan rice. i'm not a fab of -- fan of hers but i think she'll be confirmed. john kerry might be a worse secretary of state so maybe one goes ahead and lets him have the secretary of state of wants. other maybe one votes against it as senators say she wasn't forth coming in september and she should have known better than to say what she said but since democrats control the senate i assume she'll get concerned. >> chris: what's wrong with john kerry as...
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they talk about coverups, what did susan rice know and when did they know it was terror. but today the truth came out. listen to what tom ricks, the defense expert and pulitzer price winner -- listen to what he has had to say. >> senator mccain says he would block any chance to nominate susan rice to become secretary of state. she's currently the u.n. ambassador. he seems to be backing away from that. what do you think? >> i think benghazi was hyped by this network especially and now that the campaign is over i think he's backing off a little bit. they are not going to stop susan rice from being secretary of state. >> benghazi was hyped, especially by the network, but it doesn't stop there. >> you have four people dead including the first u.n. ambassador. >> i see this focus on a small fire fight. i've covered a lot of fire fights. it's impossible to figure out what happens. second, i think that the effort of benghazi have been extremely political partly because fox was operating as a wing of the republican party. >> all right. tom ricks, thank you very much for joining u
they talk about coverups, what did susan rice know and when did they know it was terror. but today the truth came out. listen to what tom ricks, the defense expert and pulitzer price winner -- listen to what he has had to say. >> senator mccain says he would block any chance to nominate susan rice to become secretary of state. she's currently the u.n. ambassador. he seems to be backing away from that. what do you think? >> i think benghazi was hyped by this network especially and...
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there is no way you can blame susan rice and suggest that she is unqualified. a rhodes scholar, the woman is extraordinary. >> she's not qualified -- the benghazi -- >> so politicized. time to end this. >> chris: it is time to end this segment! thank you, we'll take a break and when we come back the president and congressional leaders get back to work monday. will they come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ >> chris: still to come, our power player of the week. >> what i learned was to love work. >> chris: she grew up on a farm in california, making enough from raising cattle to send herself to college. >> i'm really happiest when i am engaged and working and ♪ >> relegated to a group of people meeting in secret, plotting, some sort of scheme that they think is best for america. >> the fiscal cliff is not going to happen. so the ce
there is no way you can blame susan rice and suggest that she is unqualified. a rhodes scholar, the woman is extraordinary. >> she's not qualified -- the benghazi -- >> so politicized. time to end this. >> chris: it is time to end this segment! thank you, we'll take a break and when we come back the president and congressional leaders get back to work monday. will they come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to...
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until not making nice with rice, republicans chaining their tune about susan rice, from hapless white house stool on benghazi to maybe the next secretary of state. former republicans are willing to hear her out, the formicary covert operations officer mike baker, what the heck going on. you don't like what you are seeing? >>guest: well, it shows that, (a), the republicans are disorganizeed and obviously from the election results they have the inability to grasp and hold the big picture is disappointing, and they don't have the spine or the political capital at this point to push back, much, on susan rice's nomination and the president realizes that and he has made a calculation he will jam this one through. >>neil: there could be a method to the madness if you characterize it that way, this would force her to come forward and testify, talk to them,&how benghazi was handled or not. >>guest: well, she will be under oath, that is true, and she will is to answer questions but as the ambassador to the u.n., really, she is not a key player in all of this and that goes back to my early point
until not making nice with rice, republicans chaining their tune about susan rice, from hapless white house stool on benghazi to maybe the next secretary of state. former republicans are willing to hear her out, the formicary covert operations officer mike baker, what the heck going on. you don't like what you are seeing? >>guest: well, it shows that, (a), the republicans are disorganizeed and obviously from the election results they have the inability to grasp and hold the big picture is...
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opposition to susan rice has begun. some cracks in the groher norquist pledge. >> a lot of them. >> stephanie: cracks in the wall of opposition. so now john mccain said she's not the problem. she wasn't the problem in the benghazi thing. smeation -- she's not the problem. >> not what he said for weeks on end. >> there are a lot of questions that we have for ambassador rice and i'm sure that i'll have the opportunity to discuss these with her. but she's not the problem. the problem is the president of the united states who -- in a debate with mitt romney said he said it was a terrorist attack. he hadn't. >> come on. >> you're still on that? >> stephanie: i think he sat in the thanksgiving pie. that's what i think happened there. >> i sure hope so. >> pie on the seat. >> uh-oh. >> grandpa are you sitting on the pie? >> i sure hope so. >> stephanie: okay so now obviously all of these stupid theories have blown up in their face. i think she deserves the ability to explain herself. >> stephanie: oh, can she come on up to the
opposition to susan rice has begun. some cracks in the groher norquist pledge. >> a lot of them. >> stephanie: cracks in the wall of opposition. so now john mccain said she's not the problem. she wasn't the problem in the benghazi thing. smeation -- she's not the problem. >> not what he said for weeks on end. >> there are a lot of questions that we have for ambassador rice and i'm sure that i'll have the opportunity to discuss these with her. but she's not the problem....
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ambassador susan rice be his nominee to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state or will it be john kerry? they are the two contenders in the spotlight as it is intensified by republicans. a new wave of protests in cairo as egypt's president expands his power on the heels of helping to broker a ceasefire between israel and hamas. >>> new egyptian leader, same old story for the u.s. relationship? good morning from washington. it's monday, november 26, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. welcome back from the long break. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. congressional leaders return to washington this week and with just 36 days left to avert the so-called fiscal cliff becoming more apparent that senate republicans want a deal and they would like one pretty quick. but while there may be a bi-p t bipartisan consensus to raise taxes on the wealthy, the sides are still far apart on where the revenue will come from. staff level negotiations are a little bit more than stalled. not fully stalled but they didn't go so great last week and it's unclear where speak
ambassador susan rice be his nominee to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state or will it be john kerry? they are the two contenders in the spotlight as it is intensified by republicans. a new wave of protests in cairo as egypt's president expands his power on the heels of helping to broker a ceasefire between israel and hamas. >>> new egyptian leader, same old story for the u.s. relationship? good morning from washington. it's monday, november 26, 2012. this is "the daily...
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. >> how to prepare rice for thanksgiving, but let's talk about susan rice. >> a good snack. it's nice to see. >> it's not just a snack anymore. it's the san francisco treat, but go ahead. >> it's nice that senator mccain still has the capacity to read the writing on the wall. you know, the story over the last few days has been, you know, listening to republicans who have not taken such an aggressive position as he had taken, you know, kind of quietly saying the only way we can stop her is to filibuster her, and that's not a fight we want as he starts to realize the rest of the republican party in the senate is not ready to do that, he's climbing down from his rather absurd position of last week. >> you know, he says, willie, he watches "morning joe" every morning. i think he heard us suggest -- >> steam coming out of his ears. >> but he realized, though, we were right. we were right again. that maybe they shouldn't kick around susan rice after this election. >> i maintain that there are real questions to be asked and answered about what happened. but the way that senator mcc
. >> how to prepare rice for thanksgiving, but let's talk about susan rice. >> a good snack. it's nice to see. >> it's not just a snack anymore. it's the san francisco treat, but go ahead. >> it's nice that senator mccain still has the capacity to read the writing on the wall. you know, the story over the last few days has been, you know, listening to republicans who have not taken such an aggressive position as he had taken, you know, kind of quietly saying the only way...
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i think susan rice is tainted. she rolled out on five sunday talk shows with a message of the administration that this was a response to a violent -- violent response to a video and nothing was further from the truth. we know it was an act of terror. >> brian: we also know some other congressmen, many supported you in saying she should not be nominated. >> they are. we have about 100 signatures on the letter we sent to president obama saying there are other choices out there and susan rice is probably not the best choice. >> brian: i also saw that peter king was asked the same question on "meet the press." he says just because she looked at the unclassified documents and if they were coming from the white house, it's incumbent on her to go beyond those talking points and do her own research before going on five talk shows. do you feel the same way? >> absolutely. the real question here is why would susan rice put on the sunday talk shows with a message that misled the american people for the real reason behind the
i think susan rice is tainted. she rolled out on five sunday talk shows with a message of the administration that this was a response to a violent -- violent response to a video and nothing was further from the truth. we know it was an act of terror. >> brian: we also know some other congressmen, many supported you in saying she should not be nominated. >> they are. we have about 100 signatures on the letter we sent to president obama saying there are other choices out there and...
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what about their allegations and attacks. >> they are attacking susan rice for reading talking points to describe what happened in benghazi. what the best information was. the cia has intentionally taken out the word al-qaeda for terrorist because they didn't want to tip their hand that they knew who was responsible for these attacks. >> bill: susan rice was reading what was reported to them. >> yes, she says this is what we know at the time this may change. and then she said we believe this is the result of a copycat attack. it turns out that's not what happened, but when it is known for sure, the white house comes out and says that. so they are not hiding anything. so this allegation that somehow she's a political hack -- and then there is also the point that she -- they see her as vulnerable. they think they can make a blow against the president right after he has just been reelected overwhelmingly. >> bill: and why should anybody care? >> increasingly they don't. these are two fading divas. you can see it. they are already starting to back down on the talk shows, you can see them
what about their allegations and attacks. >> they are attacking susan rice for reading talking points to describe what happened in benghazi. what the best information was. the cia has intentionally taken out the word al-qaeda for terrorist because they didn't want to tip their hand that they knew who was responsible for these attacks. >> bill: susan rice was reading what was reported to them. >> yes, she says this is what we know at the time this may change. and then she said...